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Shocking new ! The widget "Responsive text block" is now deprecated ? :o

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  • #331160

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    Dear,

    I just noticed that the Woodmart widget “Responsive text block” is flagged as deprecated. However, I’d like to say that I am worried and angry about such decision (which I simply don’t accept as a user who built many many websites with Woodmart).

    I’ve been working with Woodmart for years and created tons of sites (some with lots of pages, texts and images). I’ve always given Woodmart widgets priority over default WordPress / WPBakery widgets. In this case as well, I’ve always used the Woodmart’s text widget instead of the default WordPress text widget. Why? Well because it’s responsive as in its title!

    Why do you deprecated this widget? I just don’t understand, there is absolutely no reason to do that. If you don’t want to improve it, fine. But at least keep it as is and don’t deprecate it. This responsive text block is the most basic, simple and essential widget of ALL. You could remove all widgets no one will care, but not the TEXT widget!

    How can such a decision be done? I don’t get it. As an freelancer who creates websites, this doesn’t give me trust that Woodmart can be used in the long-term I’m afraid. I understand sometimes decisions should be taken for the sake of improving the theme, but think also about people who use your theme and don’t want to keep changing basic things like this.

    Thanks for your understanding, and on top of that it’s not mentioned in your changelog.

    (and sorry in advance if my words may be a bit harsh, I’m just not happy to get maintenance work that is not value-adding and increadibly time-consuming).

    Please revert this decision and dont deprecate this widget.

    Simon

    #331170

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    Hello,

    Don’t worry, this element is deprecated and it is better to use a new Text block. But anyway, it has a separate CSS file that is not going to be removed in the future. Of course, we understand that is the most popular element for page builders and we just can’t remove it completely.

    Kind Regards

    #331172

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    I’m not using the Gutenberg blocks. I’m using the Classic Editor and very happy about it just like 5 other millions of WordPress users.

    I’m working with WPBakery and Elementor. While working with WPBakery, I WANT and I NEED a responsive text block.

    I demand that you revert this decision and do not deprecate this text block.

    Thanks

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    #331177

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    We don’t talk about Gutenberg. We have added a new text element for WPBakery and Elementor. You can continue using Responsive text block or start with a new one.

    #331182

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    I see it nowhere. See screenshots below.

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    #331189

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    Make sure that you have updated the WoodMart core plugin as well the theme itself.

    #331203

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    Indeed, I raised a separate ticket about the woodmart core plugin.

    Now I checked the new Text Block plugin and it seems (on the frontend at least) exactly identical as the old Responsive Text Block.

    Is it really impossible to simply migrate the old text block to the next one? The settings are exactly the same… it’s just not worth it spending hours and hours just migrating those old identical text to new text blocks and recopy pasting each setting.

    #331222

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    You don’t need to migrate for your existing content. Just use it for your future pages and posts.

    Text block supports all text elements like headings, paragraphs, etc. Responsive text block is just for a single piece of text. And it is not as flexible as our new Text block. It is the same as our section title.

    #331681

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    Alright, it just took me 3 hours to replace all the deprecated “Repsonsive Text Block” by the new “Text Block” for just ONE website only.

    Let me inform you that I simply don’t accept this. I’m a webmaster building lots of websites. I can’t spend my time on such kind of maintenance.

    I request from you to find a solution so you transfer the code of your new Text Block into the Responsive Text Block automatically, or any other alternative solution.

    You said that I don’t need to transfer but I disagree. If you deprecate something, of course I need to transfer at some point because it’s “deprecated” so one day it will disappear at some point in later releases. You will obviously not keep deprecated things in the theme forever.

    Therefore, I demand :

    1) that in future releases, you please think twice about the choices you make. Many your users (agents) buy your theme with the expectations to use it in long-term, and don’t want to redo their work because of this kind of decisions.

    2) that you provide a system/query that performs the transfert of widgets between the old and new one byitself. I can’t spend hours and hours just to transfert that, taking screenshot of all the settings of the old widget and reselecting them all 1 by 1 in the new widget.

    Thanks for your understanding
    Simon

    #331811

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    Hello,

    We will not remove our Responsive text block anytime in the future. That is why you don’t have to transfer your content to a new element if you like our Responsive text block.

    Kind Regards

    #331865

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    Hi Artem,

    I understand your answer. However, please understand my point of view as well.

    I like my work and I like to do it well. When you take a decision to deprecate something, this word has a meaning. Deprecating something means that :

    1) it won’t be (actively) maintained anymore => it could still be maintained for critical or security issues, but there won’t be real maintenance on it anymore

    2) may be subject to suppression in the future even if you say now that you’ll not remove it

    3) it is never recommended to keep deprecated elements alive in a website.But still, I do not like using elements that are deprecated, not now and not in the future.

    Please undertand the consequences of your choices. Your choice to deprecate this widget has the inevitable consequence that anytime in the future, one day (even if it is in few years later) I will have to do this job of migrating those old widgets to the new one. You say the contrary but it is obviously not true. Of course you’ll not keep deprecated things in a theme forever.

    Therefore, I kindly write again my demand for you to provide a way to automatically migrate the old widgets to the new widget. Settings are “identical” across the old/new text block, therefore I am sure that something can be found to try to migrate them automatically.

    Thank you for your understanding
    Simon

    #331921

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    Hello,

    Technically, it is not possible to transfer one shortcode to another in WordPress. That is why this process can be done manually only.
    And we don’t deprecate anything just to make problems for our clients. We have to do this in order to optimize our theme performance and usability.
    Anyway, it is not correct about this element that it will not be maintained. We will keep supporting this element and will never remove it in the future.

    Kind Regards

    #331927

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    Hello,

    Alright, then in this case the flag “deprecated” should be removed because :

    1) you will keep maintaing this widget
    2) you will never remove this widget

    Based on these two points, the situation doesn’t answer to a case of depreciation.

    Thanks
    Simon

    #331931

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    What about adjusting the titles as v1 and v2 ?

    #331934

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    You also removed the word “responsive” in the next widget although it’s confusing.. the new one is also responsive. So I’d rather call them :

    Responsive Text Block v1

    Responsive Text Block v2 (recommended)

    with no use of depreciation

    #331947

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    Responsive controls are changed and available in almost all text elements. That is why don’t need to keep this word for the Text block element.
    As for the Responsive text block element, you are right, maybe we will rename it to something like “Responsive text block (old)”.

    #331948

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    Then remove the word responsive as well from the old one, because for users who search “text” in the list of widgets. They’ll end up with both of them. They’ll see an old one “responsive” and a new now where there is no responsive in the title. Yes I know they are both responsive, but at first sights for users it may appear confusing. So better align both titles as below I think:

    Text Block

    Text Block (old)

    I think that would be better agreement than the current situation

    #331986

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    Yes, but renaming “Responsive text block” to “Text block (old)” might be also confusing. People who used it before will not recognize it and will think that it is a new element.

    #334836

    Jeriss Cloud Center
    Participant

    Would it be possible to get something like a query that would list all the “posts” where the deprecated text block has been added?

    #334882

    Artem Temos
    Keymaster

    Hello,

    Sorry, but we don’t have a working code for this purpose.

    Kind Regards

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